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Handwritten notes of Brian Dueck,
Dueck's statement as to documents #
95. Transcribed by Angela Klassen, October 16/01
Interview w/ Carol Bunko C.M. + Nancy MacGregor
Michael Ross counselor: Carol
Bunko.
DOB.
242-2934 242-2934
Warmen 665-8880
Page 101
In foster care w/ Lyle + Marilyn
Thonpson Michael thaere since Dec.
Kathy + Michelle is as moved to Thompson's 90-05-29
- Michael, Michelle + Kathy
all in Anita + Peter "Dale" Klassen foster
home.
- Told Lyle Thompson last nite that, "Anita has a touching problem"
- Then clammed up.
Michael interview w/ Carol B., Nancy MacGregor, Marilyn Thompson Carol
- Anita came into the room 3
times- put her hand around his penis +
rubbed. Always at nite. He would pretend he was asleep. (bad touch)
- If he told she would chop my head off.
- Grandpa Klassen 2 times oput
his penis in Michael's bum. Around X-mas
88.
- Once in Auntie Pam's room,
Gramp Peter followed him in. Middle wearing
jogger + loose underwear. G.P. pulled him down put penis
in his bum.
- G.P. said "you better not tell or I'll have to go to jail."
- Few days later in Pam's house,
Crystal's room downstairs. Late at nite
Grandpa said going down to get some beer. Michael in bed
underwear on.
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- G.P. pulled underwear down + put penis in bum. Michael told
Grandpa
"This isn't funny" Grandpa laughed and Michael cried.
- Carol B asked Michael if granpa shoewed their privates.
- A "Yes, that Dale was
upstairs, Michael on steps at 222 St. Paul's
Dale unzipped his pants and took his penis out. (Happened after
supper
Michael scared ran to his room.
- One time Dale slapped him on the penis.
- Q. Was it on purpose or accidental ?
- Maybe it was acc. Aimed at head _ hit penis ?
- Michael said he's done some bad touching.
- Touched ???, Kathy (sister)
- He + Jackie ( Anita's daughter
) both touched each other (vagina +
penis)
- Michelle & Kathy have
told him that Anita has rubbed them on their
vagina at night.
- Michael has been in counselling
for some time Abuses????first time
disclosuers don't ??? (Looks like use at end of this sentence)
- When Dale exposed himself
Michael afraid Dale was going to put his
penis in his bum.
- (Bottom of this page is half cut off but reads as follows!)
- Thompson's info cross dressing becomes violent
Mrs. Francis teacher of Kathy.
Kathy "Dale's my husband and we do things together."
- Mrs Francis
Lyle Thompson 90-06-14
Vivian Anita's sister
Babysits a lot .
- @ ???? - kids avoided Vivian
______________________
90-06-14
- met kids & Thompson's
at Tacco Time 3384.
- Kids doing well.
- Marilyn phoned later " flood gates opened."
90-06-20
Meeting at Marilyn, Lyle.
Kathy's Statement
- Michelle agrees w/ bathroom & bedroom incidents.
Carol Bunko
652 0744
90-08-17
Spoke to Janet Kormish re kids
wants to get going not sure if we
should proceed w/ Weyburn digs.
- Spoke to Carol Bunko
will see her in Sept. interview Michael &
Kathy then.
90 Oct. 12 meeting w/ Lyle ,
Liz Newton ( crossed out name of
individual looks like Ann Munson???) and Carol Bunko
- Parents of Dale & Anita both had waterbeds.
Michael "feels good"
- Flips out when said.
- said by Anita during intercourse
Big Crystal lives W/ Pam
Little Crystal W/ Rick (grampa Klassen's son)
Threatened W/ Butcher Knives at birth parents.
- Michael & Michelle lots of touching at school.
- protection in place.
- Michael " I need forgiveness." - over and over
intercourse W Dennis & Christine
( in school).
Foster child Friesen
- Michael & Michelle intercourse @ school W/ kindergarten and up.
- Michael's performed on Dale
- Grampa
On Trevor ( Dale and Anita'a son)
Birth dad
- Dennis & Diane Kevello
- All 3 intercourse W/ Grama K.
Michelle auntie Pam
- kiss poop hole, kiss & suck her boobs.
- Put finger in vagina turned my hand (this was circled)
- gramma K. In bathtub
- threww cups of water at her.
Aunt & Uncle of Jackies. (possible Anita's sister.
? JOHN?
Kids Jenny & Robbie
- hate these people very much.
- Touched their bodies, John anal & vaginal intercourse
Auntie
Coin flipping relating first.
- heads - Michael flipping coins in park
- tails Michelle ( ???? what this says)
- 2$ bill significant.
- birthdates take out 25 cents rub it on end of penis.
Birthparents friends screwed dogs and cats.
- used a knife knife on
table everyone had to be there kids forced
to incert
(Don Ross
310 Streb Cres.) finger threatened w/ knife if the did it.
Don White Helen Ross at Laird.
Heads boys
Tails girls } at birthdads
Dale and Anita's
- Whenever I got money did it in my room
- Dale had Michael do it too.
- Within 10 mins Lyle
flipping coin, M&M had to have intercourse
Kathy lookout.
Didn't want to but had to.
Birth parents - heads
boy's screwed dogs
- tails girls
- one animal adults did it too.
Dale & An, - Anita & Jackie at brownies.
- Dale flipped for Kathy or
Michelle
- - for Michael and Trevor
Dale and Grandpa played flipping
coins
Mostly done at Pam's.
Dale and Grandpa do it to each other.
Lined up - alphabetically
all Pam'a kids all alone boy girl
boy girl.
Possible connection bet Don Ross +
Anita Klassen
Michelle last Mar 4
5 / 90 8th birthday
When disclosing this started shaking panting.
Shaking because "it's really scary ".
Kissing bum cheeks & poop hole
Along one side, then the other cheek, then poop hole.
Carol B
Questions of Michael.
Re abuse of animals
- they had sometimes in closet
- some wore them some didn't.
- mom long things w/ ?????
- Mike had to wear longer hair
- Dad had nightie w/ /// - looked like they could put fire on
you.
Michelle
Friends of birth mom & dad
- dog & knife - /// dog died knife in bum.
????? (at bottom of page)
Kathy birth mom and dad in basement other
Kids upstairs put finger in vagina and bum.
- no knowledge of money
- dog died "but we got a picture before he died.
From Thompsons
- just before Anita had her baby had Michelle finger her & intercourse
- she explained how the baby (Travis) would come.
Has since acted out having a
baby. . . . next
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